Jun 12, 2005 - patr1ck writes 'Mac Daily News is reporting that Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger for. Report: Apple Mac OS X 10.4.1 for Intel hits piracy sites. The Torrent going around as: Mac OS X Tiger X86 READNFO-XISO It's a complete fake.

Can someone who has seen one of these developer transition kits give out detailed parts lists. If this is possible, are there any restrictions in the current machine that would prevent us from building one from the parts that are in the developer kit (assuming that they are all available) and booting up OSX on a box that we built ourselves?

I know it has been said that apple is going to try and prevent this, but have they done this in the developer's kits. And if so then how have they done it?

From what I have heard they are using a standard bios (not sure what kind of motherboard exactly), standard P4 chips etc. Originally posted by UWSalt: Not going to happen. I believe someone observed that the setup was a P4 that was somehow mated with Apple's Northbridge. Alan parsons project songs. Even if it is just a standard P4 board and chipset (and I honestly can't remember), you'd have to obtain a copy of OS X for x86, which you probably can't get (legally) without getting a developer kit. I guess I forgot to mention, I don't care so much about legality.

Think about it more as a 'theoretical' excercise. What I really want to know is what kind of motherboard, and given an apple northbridge (say from another old apple machine, is it even just a chip like htat??) could we build something, possibly with a little soldering. The complete lock to just 'Intel' right now is for the community to grow and get supported.

Intel has a complete platform strategy that current AMD (AMD, please create chipsets, this IS holding you back) cannot match. Years after the transition is complete, Apple will release the 'lock' of Intel only and I'm sure you will get to build your own beige box some day (Apple and Intel working together will get BTX pushed mighty faster) -- it will just take time. The first years of the transition, you will only be able to install OSX on Apple BIOS'd machines. Later, Apple could license out those specs to manufacturer's and you could 'build' your own Apple b/c of the 'approved' hardware. Heck, you could have a thriving community of approved/supported (from Apple), unapproved/community supported (maybe some Apple resources, but still nothing official) stuff. Apple would ONLY do this when their marketshare is seeing some good gains, a lot of applications have been ported to native x86 (fat binaries are nice now, not needed in a few years). Dgi omega om 60 xp driver download.

If/when Apple grows their marketshare large enough and Intel isn't able to give them a price break they like, then Apple could move to someone else for their chips. Steve Jobs was pretty clear he didn't want the dev kits 'floating around' after they are supposed to be returned. I have a feeling that includes that particular OS build as well as the hardware. Since developers are renting the systems from Apple, I have a feeling there is something that identifies each OS install so it can be tracked directly back to the developer.

What I mean is, even though I think it's likely the systems are pretty much standard PC hardware at this point in time, getting a copy of the OS will probably be impossible without someone getting an angry letter from Apple legal, at minimum. Edit: Perhaps if you never connected to the internet, nobody would know?

Unless the OS install disc itself is tied to a hardware ID or something. Shit, I don't know. The Powermac P4s were open for us to look at, but then they were closed up (locked) the next day. Because of the picture that was mentioned in this thread. Doesn't this kind of paranoid security strike anyone as heavy-handed and unnecessary? I mean, they are presumably going to have to give these boxes to actual developers eventually, if they ever want anyone to release OSX-x86 apps. Are they going to issue an armed guard to stand vigil beside the locked box to ensure that no developer opens it up and takes pictures of it and posts it on the web?

If it's just a P4, as the leaked pics indicate, what's there to hide? And why hide it anyway?

So a few plucky devs who can't afford the $1500 entrance fee build their own OSX-x86 box and release their apps for OSX-x86. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WE LOST $1500!! But you gained a native app for your new platform.

Isn't that a desirable thing? 'There is nothing at all that prevents the version of Mac OS X that runs on the developer transition machines from running on any PC with compatible components,' Jeff Harrell writes for The Shape of Days. 'The Intel-based Power Macintoshes that Apple is showing at their developer conference are based on an Intel motherboard, generic Intel graphics and off-the-shelf Pentium 4 CPUs. I estimate that we're down to a matter of hours before Mac OS X 10.4.1 for Intel hardware is available for download on Internet software piracy sites and peer-to-peer piracy networks. (Update: A reader who for obvious reasons wishes to remain anonymous just demonstrated to me that the software is, in fact, already available on Internet software piracy sites.) If I can think through this stuff, Apple's management can think through this stuff. This is the most awe-inspiring stealth marketing move I've ever seen.' As such, it looks like your 'theoretical exercise' would not be terribly difficult.